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Some notes on the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints’ finances

Since there are some odd claims about the finances of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints going around, I thought I’d just mention a few things:

1. I honestly like paying tithing and making other donations. It’s chill, I like not worshipping money, it’s lovely how it tempers materialism, and God watches over us better than money does anyway.

2. The monetary reserves the Church holds (about $100 billion), in the highest amounts I’ve seen alleged, are comparable to the combined endowments of Yale (~$40b) and Harvard (~$50b). The 3 BYUs (Church-owned universities) serve about the same number of students as those two universities, but the Church is a much, much bigger org than Yale and Harvard (and even just discussing the BYUs, they’re operated at a massive loss with the lowest nonmilitary tuition in the US, a far cry from Yale and Harvard). The Church’s worldwide operations include welfare programs active basically everywhere the Church is present, humanitarian operations, facilities, budgets for local congregations, even educational services etc. The numbers in modern finance are dazzling, but that’s because the world is crazy. $100b in the modern economy is ~not~ large at all for a global institution.

3. The Church is tax-exempt. Its investment arm (Ensign Peak), however, is a related but distinct entity and is ~not~ tax exempt. It receives extensive IRS oversight, as does any org handling large amounts of money.*

4. Church investments are largely consistent with the Church’s purpose. One of the biggest sectors of investment is agriculture, which is necessary to sustain the Church Welfare system’s food distribution. The oddball projects are usually offshoots or offspring of various community development projects that the Church has contributed to. (Consider how the Church in Utah was in charge of developing almost everything necessary to build a life in the beginning; it has taken on similar projects in other countries as well.)

5. The Church does report what it spends donations on. Building maintenance, humanitarian needs, welfare, missionary funds, temple funds, etc. It doesn’t specify what percentages go to which, but 1) i’m satisfied as to the legitimacy of each fund, 2) detailed reporting is v expensive, and 3) i don’t really care about the details, anyway.**

*I found this kind of funny, it’s an aside about tax law, but I saw a claim that the Church wasn’t following the spirit of the law in its tax operations in some unspecified way. I just wanted to take a brief moment to note that the Tax Code is the most byzantine, absurd, torturous area of law in the US. There is no “spirit of the law” when it comes to our tax system. (It isn’t even fully consistent with the spirit of raising revenue lol.)

**The trend to demand detailed budget reporting in the name of government transparency is a similar and sometimes vexatious issue. The more detail you demand, the more checks you add in, the more expensive it gets (and it gets expensive fast when you apply it across an institution as extensive and varied as the government). It’s really easy to spend so much on “improving” finance reporting that you burn any savings you’d gain from catching errors.

xenoblade and les mis and clannad and ssss.gridman

xenoblade 2 & 3, les miserables, clannad, and ssss.gridman are the stories that just made me genuinely and powerfully happier. there’s not a lot of fiction that does that. ive enjoyed a lot of stories. But this is something far deeper than being compelling, truthful, or profound.

and maybe to drive the point home, i have a minor and half a master’s in spanish literature, and i’ve read in a lot of different movements and traditions. i’ve been looking for these stories like my life depends on it lol.

i love truth (as i can distinguish it), i love thought-provoking stuff, i love to be moved. i’ve written trying to figure out the magic, but i hate to write about these texts themselves because i just want ppl to experience them; anything i say points towards that because i cant capture what’s so important myself.

“Truth, it seems to me, is known only to the person who is affected by it; and if he chooses to communicate it to others, he automatically becomes a liar. Whatever is communicated can only be falsehood and falsification; hence it is only falsehoods and falsifications that are communicated … What matters is whether we want to lie or to tell and write the truth, even though it never can be the truth and never is the truth.” (Thomas Bernhard) It’s stuff where i can tell they’re fighting to get the truth through with all they’ve got.

“purify to the eyes of the impure”

“It is one of us women who must speak (now that men have not) of the sacredness of this painful and divine state. If the mission of art is to beautify all, with immense mercy, shall we not purify, to the eyes of the impure, this?” – Gabriela Mistral on pregnancy

she wrote a series of poems after witnessing the harassment of a heavily pregnant woman while traveling. she was criticized for these poems, which spurred her to write this note (of which i can only include the beginning) to defend her work.

Gabriela Mistral herself never had the chance to marry or have children.

I think it’s appropriate to say we’re doing worse at this even than when she wrote. Children and mothers and fathers. It’s what matters. If we cannot do right by them, we have failed beyond recovery.

work is a scam, at least half of ideology is a distraction, all that matters is doing right by families

This is not about Xenoblade 3, but Xenoblade 3 got me thinking about this

Re: The AP article on the sexual abuse hotline for the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints

The AP article, at least with respect to the legal portion, appears to be flagrant misinfo. This whole situation is distressing, but I write this up because that article actively damages chances of reform and amounts to little more than a distraction.

The AZ law in question states: “A clergyman or priest, without consent of the person making the confession, as to any confession made to the clergyman or priest in his professional character in the course of discipline enjoined by the church to which the clergyman or priest belongs.” A.R.S. § 13-4062(2). The statute even explicitly forbids reporting of sexual abuse admitted in court-ordered/correctional sex offender treatment in A.R.S. § 13-4066, and only makes an exception if, during the course of the treatment, there is a new offense. The statute provides no explicit exceptions for the penitent-clergyman privilege. Now, future or ongoing violent offenses are not covered by these privileges (per judicial interpretation), but that’s why the fact that the article mentions there was no actual knowledge of future or ongoing offenses is legally significant.

Unfortunately, the AP article provides 0 citations for the quotations of law it claims to provide, so I can’t determine why it claims what it does. It just throws phrases in quotation marks out there without explanation or sourcing.

In short, any report made without the permission of the confessor would be illegal. Only the confessor could allow the information to be divulged; the bishop had no discretion and indeed would be under a legal duty to say nothing. This case does not reveal some nefarious pattern in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints’ conduct; it is a pattern in US law. Every single state and federal law grant some degree of clergy-penitent privilege.

The helpline exists because it is entirely unreasonable to expect bishops or anyone besides lawyers to know how to handle these cases, esp. since law can change at any time. There is genuine legal complexity and significant regional variation. Leaving bishops to handle things by intuition, or or based on a rulebook, or whatever, would produce radically worse outcomes.

Even if the bishop illegally reported, courts would be legally required to ignore any evidence produced by the bishop. And, if the police managed to somehow get enough info anyway to establish probable cause (an uncertain proposition already) to issue a warrant to find admissible evidence, warrants typically don’t produce anything because sexual abuse is hard to get evidence for (this is an ongoing crisis, terribly intelligent people are trying to improve that, prosecutors really want to catch sexual abuse, but it’s a very difficult thing to fix and a quagmire well beyond the scope of this discussion). And forcing a criminal trial without adequate evidence would make things worse; it would almost inevitably grant the defendant immunity under double jeopardy.

That is the state of the law. If we want to prevent this kind of thing from happening/hold victimizers accountable, it doesn’t matter how much you speak to Church members or leaders. They cannot do anything; they are obligated to act within the law. The only people who have the power to change this are the AZ and other state legislatures. This is the takeaway. Hold legislators accountable; only they can change the rules we’re required to live by.

(I would support and I think most would support mandatory reporting for sexual abuse cases within the statute of limitations. I mention the statute of limitations as a threshold because, well, it’s useless to report anything beyond it. But I also note that, if the law were changed, most of these confessions would simply not happen and we’d end up in much the same place as we are now.)

(While this is not the most important issue at hand, I must also confess that the article is unprofessional and reeks of bigotry otherwise. For example, the article violates the AP’s own style guide on referring to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints by massively overusing the pejorative/dismissive term “Mormon.” If you are a Latter-day Saint, you know defamation, bigotry, and attacks are common, but in this case, I comment on it mostly because of the serious legal issues in the reporting.)

Addendum: Mandatory Reporting Statutes

A.R.S. § 13-3620, Arizona’s mandatory reporting law, does not abrogate the penitent’s privilege, nor does it confer the privilege, ability to waive, or actual discretion on the clergy member. If a clergy member does not report, it is based on the penitent’s privilege:

“This section [13-3620] does not create a statutory clergyman’s privilege independent of the penitent’s privilege under § 12-2233; rather, they reinstate in child-related litigation a clergyman’s ability to withhold consent on the penitent’s behalf to examination of the clergyman concerning his penitent’s confidential communication.” Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints v. Superior Court of the State of Arizona, 159 Ariz. 24 (Ariz. Ct. App. 1988).

In that case, testimony was allowed solely because the penitent waived the privilege by telling police about the contents of his confession. AP alleges no facts that suggest a waiver by the confessor. And even should such facts come to light, what does and does not constitute a waiver is highly fact-dependent, and may rely on information neither the bishop nor the hotline would have possessed at the time.

The second section mentioned in that quote, A.R.S. § 12-2233, is another iteration of the clergy-penitent privilege: “In a civil action a clergyman or priest shall not, without the consent of the person making a confession, be examined as to any confession made to him in his character as clergyman or priest in the course of discipline enjoined by the church to which he belongs.”

The court of appeals reinforced the clergy-penitent privilege because, if interpreted as AP suggests, § 13-3620 and § 12-2233 would create contrary legal duties that could not both be observed. Arizona courts have continued to reaffirm this interpretation, the most recent published decision being in 2018.

(And to explain more of the lack of professionalism on AP’s part, I would point to how they brag about obtaining access to this trove of documents, but they do not produce a single quotation or image about their contents. With that much information, if there were a pattern of problematic conduct, one would think they’d be able to report several cases across a Church with millions of members, or at least point to some document or actual policy that is causing the problem. Instead, all they do with all that information is say that, per their reading, again unexplained, the hotline could be used to divert sexual abuse cases from authorities, not that it is used. Here I note that the Church has also been sued for reporting too much in alleged violations of the privilege and that, as a matter of course, even where the privilege applies and a report is not possible, it is universal policy in the Church to push confessors of serious crimes to turn themselves in.)

Addendum 2: Further Details on Court Interpretation, esp. re: Mandatory Reporting, and Operation of Legal Privileges

You may not tell *anyone* privileged information.[1] Not the police, not a judge, not your spouse. Not in court, nor out of court. The clergy-penitent privilege operates very similarly to attorney-client and other privileged relationships.[2] Imagine an attorney telling anyone outside their office about their client’s confessions to them. Imagine if attorneys were allowed to report their clients. The privilege would immediately fail its purpose and the client would not be able to trust their own counsel. If AZ statute doesn’t explicitly spell that out, then it’s derived from common law, the body of law that corresponds to judicial decisions over history. It’s simply how privileges function (that’s why I don’t bother looking it up).

The clergy member has no privilege to not testify: he or she is compelled not to testify by the privilege of the penitent. The penitent is the exclusive possessor of the privilege in AZ law (most states grant the right to the penitent, not the clergy, as well). If the clergy member speaks without permission of the penitent, the penitent has the legal right to force the clergy member’s silence and obtain damages. And, of course, how many accused are not going to enforce such a thing? Even when it is referred to as the clergy member’s right, what it really means is that the clergy member exercises the penitent’s right on their behalf. So no, the clergy member may *not* testify of his or her own volition.

To summarize, the penitent-clergy privilege is a right that the penitent has *against* the clergy member, conditioned on the clergy-member’s respect of the privilege. Not a right of the clergy member.

That was the court’s decision in Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints v. Superior Court of the State of Arizona, 159 Ariz. 24 (Ariz. Ct. App. 1988). While the statutory language of § 13-3620, read alone, would seem to confer the right on the clergy member, the courts do not interpret it so, because such an interpretation would be incompatible with prior law that § 13-3620 was not intended to replace (per the court’s own examination of legislative history and statutory text). The published decision goes into a discussion of the whys and wherefores if you so wish.

How it works out is that the clergy member may not divulge the privileged information, unless some waiver occurs by the penitent and the penitent alone. If the penitent waives their privilege, then the clergy member would actually fall under the mandatory reporting statute and be required to report (this is problematic because the clergy member doesn’t necessarily know whether the penitent has waived their privilege, esp. in cases of implied waiver).

[1]Unless one of the specific exceptions apply, like the report concerns future violent harm or, say, you’re an attorney discussing the case with co-counsel or a paralegal (and then, cocounsel or the paralegal would be bound by the privilege).

[2] Arizona court decisions have made attorney-client privilege the strongest of the privileges in Arizona, with penitent-clergy being just a tick below attorney-client. Other privileges,

Strange Locomotion

Strange locomotion achieves advanced movement in 3-dimensions by manipulating hyperdimensional extensions of 3-dimensional objects. Strange locomotion can, for instance, achieve incredible speeds at lower energy costs and avoid sensory detection. It is essential for interstellar travel.

It is equivalent to using a motor in 3-dimensions for a 2-dimensional object. For example, imagine a completely flat object that wanted to move exactly along its 2d plane. Attach a propeller to the flate surface in a 3d dimension, and push the 2d object using the wind current generated by the fan in the 3rd dimension. That is strange locomotion.

A strange motor is a hyperdimensional structure that moves an object in 3-dimensional space using propulsion through a hyperdimensional medium. As such, most of the motor and its consequences are undetectable (unlike, say, rockets, who inevitably produce a noticeable heat signature). For a functional strange motor, control can be erratic and result in odd movement patterns, as the motor’s operation can only be known by inference, but it is ultimately predictable.

The techniques to build a strange motor are esoteric, requiring highly specialized factories and materials. Certain rings are more amenable than others to their construction. Additionally, strange motors may operate in different ways in different rings, based on the eccentricities of the hyperdimensional medium used by the strange motor. Motors must be carefully calibrated to only move exactly in parallel to the 3D space, otherwise the engine will be removed by sheering. Additionally, careful choice of hyperdimensional medium is essential; because the pilot cannot see the hyperdimensional medium whatsoever, they cannot avoid collisions with objects in the medium. It is thus necessary that the medium be extremely sparse of anything that could harm the motor.

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O Brother Where Art Thou

love that film, it goes hard.

complex, understated, bombastic, a very complete human experience all wrapped into something small

with

the iconic:

plus some of my other favs:

it’s a banger 🙂

it’s really likely ill repost things in this series over time and mess up the count. just wonder how long it’ll take lol.

Small recommendation: Zotero. Great app for managing research. Add it to your browser, download the desktop app, and it stores articles and other research sources quickly and conveniently. Also stores metadata in an accessible fashion that makes citations easier. I just use folders to divide things into projects. It’s nice to just look at old folders and be reminded of all the stuff I found back then too.

Pioneer Day 2022 Reflections

Today’s Pioneer Day in Utah, commemorating the day the first group of Latter-day Saints arrived in the Salt Lake Valley. The move was forced: the murder of Latter-day Saints had been legalized in Missouri and was ignored elsewhere. That we survived as a people was a miracle.

In Missouri, 2 reasons were given to justify our extermination: 1. we were poor 2. race-mixing/impeding the practice of slavery and 3. we were blasphemers. Some Latter-day Saints managed to escape before the onset of winter, while others could not. Many Latter-day Saints lost their properties to arson and vandalism. Many were also victims of assault, theft, rape, and murder.

With little money, they traversed the Midwest and Rockies. Many used shoddy handcarts, pulled by human power, to carry their scanty belonging.

Even after arrival, things were difficult: Utah is mostly desert, famine, illness, poverty, relations with local cultures were complicated (Utes in particular had grown into a powerful slaver culture after centuries of enslaving Shoshone and Paiutes the Spanish Empire).

(small aside: the Ute language is most closely related to the language of the Aztecs in Central Mexico, despite many significant languages and cultures separating them. v fascinating.)

Many people died before the exodus, and many died after. Included several of my ancestors.

While I didn’t grow up with Pioneer Day, I grew up with stories of my ancestors’ struggle to survive. These events still have significant ramifications.

Not the least are the cultural memory of persecution and the generational effects of trauma. Additionally, religious persecution in the US finds its legal precedent in cases against Latter-day Saints from the early Utah period.

Indigenous holy sites, rituals, and religions have been destroyed under reliance on legal principles set forth to harass and control Latter-day Saints. It’s a complex and often tragic history, but people made it work and managed to find their measure of happiness.

8Sanctuary

I. Census

II. Description

III. Map

I. Census

Census Guide

HouseholdNameRelationshipSexAgeAgeFrameSpeciesProfessionOrigin
Cemetery C. Bldg.MandelbotHeadF23AdultHumanConstructionPatchwork
Chapel GrottoDream (8SUN)HeadF6300AncientAxolotlPriestess8Sanctuary
Solar OktaviaHeadepistemologicallyuncertainhere for the vibes
GardensGhost (8SUN)HeadF52DeceasedHumanHunterConvergent Mistlands
Mess HallChaos (8SUN)HeadF788AdultWorldheartNurse/Farm
NE WatchtowerMiracle (8SUN)DependentF16AdolescentSilquiGuideFarandine
Student Quarters AJustice (8SUN)HeadF49AdultYaldaSecurityFallenvelt
Star (8SUN)DependentM8ChildWispitXNilam
Student Quarters BMirror (8SUN)HeadF312AdultGolemArtisan

II. Description

The settlement resides on a knoll in a mountainous valley within the Convergent Mistlands, with standard flora and fauna for the region. It was once the heart of a pastoral community of several thousand, but was abandoned. The Convergent Mistlands, generally, is a place where people pass through: permanent residents, even nomadic ones, are exceedingly rare. 8Sanctuary is unique in that the mist is often quite light, compared to the rest of the region, and is named because it is naturally secure. This settlement was used for several hundred years, making it one of the longest-lasting settlements. Most residents were human.

The valley is inaccessible to large groups, with entry and exit difficult. Travelers happen on it by chance or, as is the case today, Miracle guides people in when they are in need. The mists are both a defense and a burden. The Mistlands do not discriminate when bringing people in, but would-be raiders and bandits are often whisked away before they understand the nature of the land. Natives use structures and caves to avoid the mists.

The heart of the settlement is a grotto spanning the area underneath. The grotto contains an underground water and still pools stemming from the aquifer. The main area of the grotto is used for religious ceremonies, while other areas are used for bathing, potable water, and so on. Areas of the grotto are designed based on building they are connected to, e.g., the ceremonial grotto is accessed from the chapel, while bathing areas are below living quarters. The crypt is intentionally designed to keep water out, with walls using artificial materials to make it watertight. Several of the grottos are reserved for purely ritual uses, rituals which Dream and Miracle still conduct to this day.

The settlement grew out from the chapel and what is now the administrative building, as it was first built as the center of the community’s religious experience. The crypt, cemetery wall, and cemetery building were early additions. The facilities outside the inner wall were added at about the same time, in order to make the chapel self-sufficient for its inhabitants, add the educational complex, and host festivals for a growing community.

The civilization came to an abrupt end when the mist became disastrously thick, whisking most of the population away from the Mistlands and scattering them in a cataclysmic event. The mist almost had a force and life to it, seeping in through doorways and windows, into caverns that had always remained untouched. Furthermore, the mist was quicker to teleport people out of the Mistlands than normal and, another unique occurrence, even people born and raised in the Mistlands would be whisked out into unknown lands. While not everywhere nor everyone was touched, less than a sixth of the population remained. 8Sanctuary had never experienced such an intense accumulation of mist, nor has it again. Dream is the only remaining resident from that time, the rest having died or moved on. She believes some pollutant from outside the Mistlands had corrupted the mist (for why else would the mist steel away the lands’ natives, something it never does of its own accord?).

As for the name, the sanctuary was first built under the patronage of the nomadic worldheart, the Octagon Sun. Solar Oktavia visits the 8Sanctuary as the Octagon Sun’s representative.

The 8Sanctuary today is a modest operation, serving as a waypoint and refuge for wanderers and people who find themselves in the Mistlands.

III. Map

  1. Chapel: A 2-story building with grotto access.
  2. Administrative Offices and Housing
  3. Workers’ Quarters
  4. Gardens
  5. Cemetery Central Building: houses tools, the caretaker’s residence, and an entrance to the crypt.
  6. Cemetery
  7. Library + Schoolhouse
  8. Storage + Student Quarters A: Storage
  9. Mess Hall + Student Quarters B: The 1st floor includes a mess hall and kitchen. The large mess hall, seeing as it is no longer in use, has been repurposed for Chaos’ nest.
  10. Inner Grounds: initially used for all kinds of purposes, but once the public grounds were walled in, the inner grounds were reserved for religious and educational gatherings.
  11. Public Grounds: used for public ceremonies, festivals, and the like.
  12. Fields: used for growing crops.
  13. Stables
  14. Gatehouse
  15. NE Watchtower
  16. SW Watchtower
  17. Adults’ Meeting Area: a small, outdoor depression where people would gather and talk while resting. For more formal occasions, the speaker(s) would stand at the center.
  18. Students’ Meeting Area: as above, but used by the students.
  19. General Theater: as above, but used for community gatherings and the general public.

Small Thoughts on Aging

There’s a lot of hatred for aging. And sometimes, quite disturbingly, that becomes hatred for the elderly. But there are a lot of very happy old people. And, while I’m certainly quite young, I have a lot of peers who are already quite distressed about their age. Time is passing fast, and that ain’t gonna change. Looking the other way is much more likely to turn you into a miserable old folk than a happy one. Figuring out how to age when you’re young seems wiser than waiting. Unfortunately, you might have to wait a while to know if it’s helping, but you’ve gotta try.

But getting older can be really cool. And I think, perhaps, finding joy in the following will make growing up very worthwhile:

  • sharing things you love.
  • rediscovering things you love, as memories fade and you get to reexperience things thanks to the passage of time.
  • seeing how people build on what you worked on.
  • fostering crossgenerational relationships (just as important when you’re young, too).
  • build up goodness and kindness and knowledge.
  • watching kids grow up. especially your own if you can have them.
  • teaching. In particular, hoping your pupils outshine you.
  • watching people achieve things you could’ve never dreamed of.

Age brings illness, weakness, and all kinds of things, and I wouldn’t diminish it. But I would hazard to say that this list of things can be genuinely worth the pain. learning to rejoice in others’ achievements and nurturing them may not be something everyone knows how to enjoy, but it is always something worth learning to enjoy.

Genh

A genh is a spiritlike, symbiotic species. While not actually spirits, their body is almost invisible and almost intangible.

They engage in symbiosis with other intelligent species. A genh will attach to a specific person and act as a sort of guardian or patron deity. Genh influence their host with creativity and insight, while also using their magical abilities to the host’s benefit. Genh can make themselves visible only at great expense. Instead, they mostly just interact with their host by magically altering dreams, whispering in their ear, and appearing to the host (which is less difficult than making themselves visible; they can appear to the host by magically altering the host’s sight).

Genh’s magic is mostly targeted, being strongest when focused on an individual. Genh abilities vary dramatically, with some being incredibly powerful, and others capable only of inspiration. Thus, genh have blessed many artists, while some genh have helped a handful of people become incredible warriors.

Genh, since they are mutualistic, are benign. Nonetheless, they have their own personalities. Some are less helpful, more biased, or more domineering than others. They might be sassy, dismissive, encouraging, protective, motherly, fatherly, or any number of other things. Most genh will defer to their host’s judgment as to what is beneficial, but not all, and not for all things.

They have a lifespan of about 50 years and gain intelligence rapidly (aided by how little they need to learn of survival or physicality). If their host dies before the genh, the genh will simply move on to another person, typically someone close to the original host. Genh may establish dynasties, where their descendants will associate with the descendants of their hosts. Some genh appear with incredibly long lives sporadically.

Their appearance varies dramatically, since their real bodies are mostly ethereal; what is seen is a projection. As a cultural matter, they do choose a fixed appearance for dealing with their host and each other. They would not really benefit from shapeshifting, so a shapeshifting genh is rare.

Genh subsist on energies emitted by their host. They are not terribly social, but need a healthy relationship with their host. They need respect from the host for their gifts and appreciate quiet meditation. Genh may appear to people close to their host, and a handful of individuals will form friendships with their host’s friends. Additionally, genh will take an entire family as a host where they all get along.

As for the host’s enemies, genh tend to rely on their host’s perspective. Genh struggle with bias and perspective, to the point that some become self-absorbed (they may view the self as including the host, which can get quite problematic if they come to feel the host is part of them, rather than distinct). The same can be true of genh hosts, who may become quite arrogant thanks to the genh’s blessings. Many genh will abandon such hosts.

Fictional examples would be Ms. Sothis Fire Emblem (at least for part of her life) or the Roman genius.